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[Absender:] Dr H. Weisse, La Rochegasse
14
Wien XIII.

[An:] Herrn Dr.
Heinrich Schenker
Wien III.
Keilgasse 8.
[postmark:] || 13/1 WIEN 88 | 22 [illeg] | * b * ||

[for continuation of message from verso, see below]
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21. Jänner 27.

Lieber verehrter Meister! 1

Die Adresse von Gerald F. Warburg läutet New York City 174 East. 79 Street. U.S.A.
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ferne bitte ich Sie um Auskunft ob Sie in der Sonate op 111 Takte [following figure circled:] VI1 folgende den Triller zu den Triolenwerten der linken Hand auch blos als Triole geschlagen haben wollen? Takt [following figure circled:] VI10 z.B. findet ich führt Ihre Fingersatznotierung irre: Sie haben dort bei g2 den Fingersatz 153 535[,] man vermutet demnach Triolen[;] beim zweiten Achtel steht 4545, 2 soll das {recto} einen Trillerwert von 4 Noten bezeichnen? (Gegen die Triole der linken Hand?) – 3

Sehr gerne wüßte ich[,] wie Sie sich zu Brahms, C mollstreichquartett stellen, zu der Stelle, die ich Ihnen unlängst zeigte: ob sich das wirklich rechtfertigen läßt. 4


Alles Liebe Ihnen und der lieben Frau und vielen Dank noch für den schönen Sonntagnachmittag
Ihr
[signed:] H.

© Transcription William Drabkin, 2013

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[printed:] Postcard

[sender:] Dr. H. Weisse, La Rochegasse
14
Vienna XIII

[to:] Dr.
Heinrich Schenker
Vienna III
Keilgasse 8
[postmark:] || 13/1 WIEN 88 | 22 [illeg] | * b * ||

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January 21, 1927

Dear revered Master, 1

The address for Gerald F. Warburg is: New York City 174 East. 79 Street. U. S. A.
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May I also ask you whether, in the Erläuterungsausgabe of Op. 111, in variation 6, bars 1 ff., the trills [in the right hand] should be played merely as triplets, corresponding to the triplet values in the left hand part. In variation 6, bar 10, for example, I find that your fingering notations are misleading: you have given the fingering of the g2 there as 153 535, from which one would assume triplets; at the second eight-note there appears 4545: 2 does that {recto} indicate a trill value of four notes? (Against the the triplets of the left hand)? 3

I would gladly like to know what you think about Brahms's String Quartet in C minor, i.e. the passage that I recently showed you: whether it can really be justified. 4


All good wishes to you and your dear wife, and many thanks for the lovely Sunday afternoon.
Yours,
[signed:] Hans

© Translation William Drabkin, 2013

{recto}
[printed:] Postka[rte]

[Absender:] Dr H. Weisse, La Rochegasse
14
Wien XIII.

[An:] Herrn Dr.
Heinrich Schenker
Wien III.
Keilgasse 8.
[postmark:] || 13/1 WIEN 88 | 22 [illeg] | * b * ||

[for continuation of message from verso, see below]
{verso}
21. Jänner 27.

Lieber verehrter Meister! 1

Die Adresse von Gerald F. Warburg läutet New York City 174 East. 79 Street. U.S.A.
[horizontal line spanning whole page]

ferne bitte ich Sie um Auskunft ob Sie in der Sonate op 111 Takte [following figure circled:] VI1 folgende den Triller zu den Triolenwerten der linken Hand auch blos als Triole geschlagen haben wollen? Takt [following figure circled:] VI10 z.B. findet ich führt Ihre Fingersatznotierung irre: Sie haben dort bei g2 den Fingersatz 153 535[,] man vermutet demnach Triolen[;] beim zweiten Achtel steht 4545, 2 soll das {recto} einen Trillerwert von 4 Noten bezeichnen? (Gegen die Triole der linken Hand?) – 3

Sehr gerne wüßte ich[,] wie Sie sich zu Brahms, C mollstreichquartett stellen, zu der Stelle, die ich Ihnen unlängst zeigte: ob sich das wirklich rechtfertigen läßt. 4


Alles Liebe Ihnen und der lieben Frau und vielen Dank noch für den schönen Sonntagnachmittag
Ihr
[signed:] H.

© Transcription William Drabkin, 2013

{recto}
[printed:] Postcard

[sender:] Dr. H. Weisse, La Rochegasse
14
Vienna XIII

[to:] Dr.
Heinrich Schenker
Vienna III
Keilgasse 8
[postmark:] || 13/1 WIEN 88 | 22 [illeg] | * b * ||

[for continuation of message from verso, see below]
{verso}
January 21, 1927

Dear revered Master, 1

The address for Gerald F. Warburg is: New York City 174 East. 79 Street. U. S. A.
[horizontal line spanning whole page]

May I also ask you whether, in the Erläuterungsausgabe of Op. 111, in variation 6, bars 1 ff., the trills [in the right hand] should be played merely as triplets, corresponding to the triplet values in the left hand part. In variation 6, bar 10, for example, I find that your fingering notations are misleading: you have given the fingering of the g2 there as 153 535, from which one would assume triplets; at the second eight-note there appears 4545: 2 does that {recto} indicate a trill value of four notes? (Against the the triplets of the left hand)? 3

I would gladly like to know what you think about Brahms's String Quartet in C minor, i.e. the passage that I recently showed you: whether it can really be justified. 4


All good wishes to you and your dear wife, and many thanks for the lovely Sunday afternoon.
Yours,
[signed:] Hans

© Translation William Drabkin, 2013

Footnotes

1 Receipt of this postcard is not recorded in Schenker's diary. It is in part a response to a request from Schenker (postcard of January 19, 1927, recorded at OJ 3/9, p. 3027) and was itself answered by Schenker in a postcard of January 23 (recorded at OJ 3/9, p. 3028).

2 Weisse's questions pertain to the second movement of Beethoven's Piano Sonata in C minor, Op. 111. In the Erläuterungsausgabe of the sonata (1915) and the reprint of the musical text by Universal Edition (1923–24), the bars of each variation are numbered separately; variation "VI" is the abbreviated repeat of the theme. In this postcard, Weisse has placed a slur underneath each group of numbers: 153, 535, and 4545; he asks whether the first two stand for triplet figures, and whether the last represents a a group of shorter note values.

3 No paragraph-break in source.

4 No paragraph-break in source.

Commentary

Format
printed postcard, holograph address, message continuation and signature recto, holograph message beginning verso
Provenance
Schenker, Heinrich (document date-1935)--Schenker, Jeanette (1935-c.1942)--Ratz, Erwin (c.1942-c.1945)--Jonas, Oswald (c.1945-1978)--University of California, Riverside (1978--)
Rights Holder
Heirs of Hans Weisse, reproduced with kind permission
License
Permission to publish granted on March 10, 2008 by the heirs of Hans Weisse. Any claim to intellectual rights on this document should be addressed to the Schenker Documents Online, Faculty of Music, University of Cambridge, at schenkercorrespondence[at]mus(dot)cam(dot)ac(dot)uk

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